雄鹿一成就比肩勇士|争冠最强对手或是洛城双雄

【键盘侠】雄鹿一成就比肩勇士|争冠最强对手或是洛城双雄

With a record of 40-6, the 2019-20 Milwaukee Bucks join the 2015-16 Golden State Warriors as the only other team in the 2000’s to win 40 games before losing 7 games; they are only the 7th team in NBA history to accomplish this feat.

雄鹿拿到40胜6负(今天战胜奇才之前)之后,他们就和15/16赛季的勇士一起,成为21世纪仅有的两支输7场之前拿到40胜的球队。NBA历史上实现这一成就的球队仅有7支。

Everyone knows Phil Jackson’s “40 wins before 20 losses means you’re a true title contender” rule, but what the Bucks are doing this season is truly amazing. They are currently on pace to win 71 games, giving them a legitimate chance to tie or even break the single season NBA wins record of 73 games, see by the very same 2015-16 Warriors team. Granted, at this point the Warriors were 42-4, I don’t believe they had a player nearly as dominant on both ends of the floor as Giannis, so there is always that with this Bucks team.

大家都知道,菲尔-杰克逊有那个著名的“输20场之前拿到40胜意味着你就是真正的争冠球队”理念,不过雄鹿这赛季的表现确实亮眼。

他们目前正处于冲击71胜的节奏上,追平甚至打破勇士创造的单赛季73胜纪录的机会其实并不小。的确,勇士当时相同场次的战绩是42胜4负,可我觉得他们当初没有像字母哥这种攻防两端都很有统治力的球员,所以这支雄鹿还是很有希望的。

Here is a break down of how those 6 previous teams who achieved this feat did in the post season:

1966-67 Philadelphia 76ers: Won NBA Finals

1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers: Won NBA Finals

1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers: Won NBA Finals

1995-96 Chicago Bulls: Won NBA Finals

1996-97 Chicago Bulls: Won NBA Finals

2015-16 Golden State Warriors: Lost NBA Finals

以下是那六支达成“输7场之前拿到40胜”成就的球队当赛季季后赛的成绩:

66/67赛季 费城76人:赢得总冠军

71/72赛季 洛杉矶湖人:赢得总冠军

82/83赛季 费城76人:赢得总冠军

95/96赛季 芝加哥公牛:赢得总冠军

96/97赛季 芝加哥公牛:赢得总冠军

15/16赛季 金州勇士:总决赛输球

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[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 2278 指標 23小時前

It’s been really really fun being a fan this year. I have watched them since the early 90s, and remember all the dark times. Remember before last year this had been a team that hadn’t won a playoff series in 18 years. It still feels weird to have expectations.

雄鹿球迷:咱们雄鹿球迷这赛季真的真的很开心。自90年代开始就看雄鹿,那些黑暗岁月我都记得。一直到上赛季之前,这一直是一支18年没能赢下一轮系列赛的球队。现在咱们居然还能有所期待,到现在都觉得奇怪。

[–]Bucks Jamil_Aziz2 38 指標 17小時前

It does, and I’ve only been a fan for sixteen years.

雄鹿球迷:还真是,我就做了16年的雄鹿球迷

[–]Bucks TtarIsMyBro 9 指標 13 小時前

please don’t choke in the playoffs, please don’t choke in the playoffs

雄鹿球迷:拜托今年不要在季后赛掉链子啊,千万不要掉链子。

[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 917 指標 20小時前

It’s so fucking strange to have lived and watched through this entire 18 year drought and then suddenly come out on the other side with the best record in the league two years in a row.

雄鹿球迷:连着18年不能挺进季后赛第二轮都熬过来了,突然间柳暗花明,居然连着两个赛季拿到联盟最佳战绩,这真特么诡异。

[–]Grizzlies Scoreboard19 566 指標 20小時前

I’m really happy for Milwaukee! Small market pride!

灰熊球迷:我真心为密尔沃基高兴!小球会的骄傲!

[–]Bucks kryle 255 指標 19小時前

Same for the Grizzlies! I went down there when the Bucks played in December. And the Grizzlies are fun af. Unfortunately Ja didnt play but JJJ was a goddamn flamethrower.

雄鹿球迷:我们也替灰熊开心!去年12月雄鹿去孟菲斯打客场的时候我也去了。灰熊打得很好看啊。可惜当时莫兰特没打,不过贾伦-杰克逊真特么秀。

[–]a_lonely_skeleton 85 指標 19小時前

Even during those dark times there were memorable highlights. I was at the game when they snapped the Warrior’s 24 game win streak. The crowd was amazing, and Bucks fans were wearing "24-1" t-shirts during the game.

Of course Warriors returned the favor the next game with "10-18" t-shirts.

即便在那些灰暗时期,雄鹿也有值得铭记的时刻。当初咱们终结勇士24连胜的时候,我也在现场。现场气氛太棒了,全体雄鹿球迷都穿着写有“24-1”的助威T恤。

当然了,之后咱们去客场打勇士时,他们的球迷也用写有“10胜18负”的T恤报复了我们。

[–]Bucks TheNi11a 34 指標 19小時前

The original Fear the Deer run. John Salmons! Carlos Delfino!

雄鹿球迷:还记得“Fear the Deer(惧怕雄鹿)”刚刚兴起的时候。当时有约翰-萨尔蒙斯!还有卡洛斯-德尔菲诺!

[–]Pistons salmon10 164 指標 20小時前

Micheal Redd died for the Bucks salvation

活塞球迷:迈克尔-里德为拯救雄鹿做出了牺牲!

[–]Bucks colesitzy 16 指標 11 小時前

His sacrifice will be remembered in our coming empire

雄鹿球迷:等到我们王朝建立之时,他的牺牲会被大家铭记于心的!

[–]Bucks Hiurawego 129 指標 20小時前

and the Pistons front office giving us Middleton for Brandon Jennings

雄鹿球迷:还有当初活塞管理层为了得到詹宁斯,把米德尔顿给我们了

[–]Pistons salmon10 78 指標 20小時前

Tbf Middleton wasnt progressing as quickly as our dumbass scouts had thought, and Jennings was entering his prime, 18/6 before his horrific injury

活塞球迷:说真的,那个时候的米德尔顿并没有像咱们愚蠢的球探预想的那样进步那么迅猛,而詹宁斯那会儿正进入个人巅峰期,他那次重伤之前场均能有18分6助呢

[–]Bucks Hiurawego 85 指標 20小時前

yeah the original deal was mainly Jennings for Brandon Knight with Middleton as a throw in.

雄鹿球迷:是啊,这笔交易最初的目的主要是用詹宁斯换布兰登-奈特,米德尔顿只是个添头

[–][LAL] Steve Nash DetectiveCactus 96 指標 19小時前

Jennings for Knight is about the most 2013 trade I’ve ever heard

湖人球迷:詹宁斯换奈特我记得差不多是13年最爆炸的一笔交易

[–]Bucks Hiurawego 63 指標 19小時前

I don’t think many people realize how good BK was in Milwaukee in the 2014-15 season. Should have been an all star but somehow Kyle Korver took his spot

雄鹿球迷:很多人都不知道14/15赛季的奈特在雄鹿打得有多好。本来应该进全明星的,可是科沃尔把他的位置抢了

[–][OKC] Nick Collison migrainium 24 指標 19小時前

Tbf that year the Hawks had the best record and Korver was shooting a ridiculous over .500 average from 3.

雷霆球迷:有一说一,那个赛季的老鹰有联盟最佳战绩,而科沃尔的三分命中率高到离谱,都过半了。

[–]Bucks MyCardboardSword 21 指標 14小時前

I’ve been a bucks fan my whole life. This feels so surreal. And on top of being a great team, we have bandwagon fans. That’s something I never would have expected when we were wearing red and green jerseys at the Bradley, starting Carlos Delfino and John Salmons. What a ride.

雄鹿球迷:我这辈子都是雄鹿球迷。现在感觉太不现实了。除了球队实力强劲,咱们还有一帮死忠粉。当初咱们在布拉德利中心(雄鹿主场)穿着红绿配色的球衣,看着德尔菲诺和萨尔蒙斯首发时,还真没想过会有这么一天。真是沧海桑田啊。

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[–][UTA] Donovan Mitchell Attey21 18 指標 14 小時前

They dominate everyone. Hope they keep it up and can get that Championship or lose to the Jazz in the finals haha

爵士球迷:雄鹿虐遍了所有的对手。希望他们能继续保持,夺得总冠军,要不就在总决赛输给爵士,哈哈哈

[–]Bucks TTBurger88 262 指標 14 小時前

So blessed to finally witness this team not just accepting mediocrity and just hope they make the 8th seed or be a lottery team. But becoming a league wide threat to win the championship.

雄鹿球迷:真是老天眷顾啊,总算能看到这支队伍不甘于平庸了,原来咱们可是只想着拿个第8或者进入乐透区的。可现在呢,咱们成了要整总冠军的联盟劲敌。

[–]Cavaliers pandar314 95 指標 13 小時前

I hope it lasts longer for you than it did for us. It makes the game much more enjoyable when your horse is the one to beat.

骑士球迷:希望你们这个争冠期能比我们之前长。大家都想着要击败你们的时候,比赛就要好看太多了。

[–]Bucks Guard226Duck 99 指標 12 小時前

you guys were contenders for a long time…

雄鹿球迷:你们克利夫兰的争冠期够长了……

[–]Cavaliers ghrarhg 33 指標 11 小時前

Yea definitely. Thankfully LBJ was born near us!

骑士球迷:那是肯定的。多亏了詹姆斯出生的地方离我们这儿近!

[–]Cavaliers jwfutbol 29 指標 14 小時前

People can say anything they want about the Cavs now and it just bounces off since we have our ‘16 championship. Only one for Cle (any sport) in my lifetime.

骑士球迷:大家对现在的克利夫兰想说啥都行,反正都反弹了,因为我们是16年总冠军!这可是我这辈子在克利夫兰(任何体育运动)见到的唯一一个。

[–]Bucks MrTomAce 221 指標 14 小時前

I’ve been waiting my whole life for a championship. All I ask is for one and I won’t complain again.

雄鹿球迷:我这辈子都在等待一个冠军。我只想要一个,拿了我就不会再婆婆妈妈了。

[–]Mavericks krw13 19 指標 14 小時前

I’m cheering for you guys. I love the guys on your team and Giannis is such a wholesome dude. Our one championship with the Mavs still makes me so damn happy. Every die hard fan should get to witness one.

独行侠球迷:我在为你们加油打气呢。我喜欢你们的队员,字母哥真是太全面了。我们独行侠当年拿的那个总冠军至今还特么让我很高兴呢。每个死忠粉都应该见证自己的球队拿一次冠军。

[–][TOR] Chris Bosh CaskMA 87 指標 13 小時前

If the raptors lose in the playoffs, I’m cheering for the bucks. Idk if I’m ‘supposed to’ or not but Giannis is great, the team is fun, and fuck the west.

猛龙球迷:要是猛龙今年在季后赛被淘汰了,那我就为雄鹿加油。不知道我该不该这么做,不过字母哥太厉害了,雄鹿打得也有观赏性,必须得干死西部。

[–]Raptors BritishColumbiEnt 50 指標 11 小時前

As a Raps fan I honestly love all the top Eastern Conference teams. Milwaukee is just an all around killer and Giannis is a generational talent. Now that Kyrie is gone I feel like the Celtics play a solid brand of more team-oriented basketball and their young core is allowed to play to their full potential. The Heat always play really hard physical games and are an incredibly well coached team. The Pacers have been exceptional in the absence of their star player. They’re a well structured organization with a lot of good glue guys who play their role exceptionally well. Finally, last but not least the 76ers can go fuck themselves.

猛龙球迷:作为猛龙球迷,我其实喜欢东部所有强队。密尔沃基就是个全能杀手,字母哥是划时代的天才。欧文走后,我觉得凯尔特人打得更有整体性了,而且他们的年轻核心也得以展示自己全部的潜力。热火的比赛总是有很强的身体对抗,而且他们确实是调教有方。步行者在头号球星养伤期间,一直打得很出色,他们有很多异常出色地扮演好各自角色的粘合剂球员,这个球队的建队结构很好。说到最后了,76人可以滚犊子了。

[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum oneders 20 指標 12 小時前

Root for whoever you want. Don’t let your location of birth, or the fandom of a team you support stop YOU from enjoying the NBA the way YOU want to.

I am a Celtics fan, but DAMN are the Bucks entertaining. It would be good for the NBA and wildly entertaining to see Giannis in the finals.

凯尔特人球迷:想支持哪个队都行。不能被你的出生地和你的主队情结影响了,要按照自己的方式来享受NBA。

我是个凯尔特人球迷,可是呢,雄鹿打得太特么好看啦!这对NBA是有益的,要是能在总决赛看字母哥打球,那肯定超级过瘾。

【键盘侠】雄鹿一成就比肩勇士|争冠最强对手或是洛城双雄

[–]Warriors Djeff_ 49 指標 16 小時前

Where do you guys see them finishing at?

勇士球迷:你们觉得雄鹿这赛季最后能取得怎样的战绩?

[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 144 指標 16 小時前

Probably 67-68 wins. Bud isn’t going to worry about 70, but I don’t see them dropping games against anything other than really good teams unless they are resting players.

雄鹿球迷:或许是67-68胜吧。布登霍尔泽不会去想着70胜,不过我觉得他们在打那些强队之外的对手时不会手软,除非是想让球员休息。

[–]Heat SmokingFrog 70 指標 15 小時前

I think they’ll go for 70+ wins — if at any point it becomes clear that is unattainable then they’ll probs start resting, but you can see this team believes they’re that good and they want it too.

热火球迷:我觉得雄鹿会冲击70+的胜场。如果到了某个阶段这个目标难以达成的时候,他们或许会让首发休息。不过咱们都能感觉到,雄鹿就是相信自己有那个实力,他们也想冲70胜。

[–]someguynamedaaron 12 指標 14 小時前

I really don’t see us, mainly bud, letting up. I think that near the end of the season the lakers are going to be close enough that we will still want to play hard to ensure home court throughout the playoffs.

我真觉得咱们不会放松,主要还是看布登霍尔泽。等到临近常规赛结束的时候,要是湖人的战绩还是查我们不多的话,那我们还是会想着努力打,从而确保能在季后赛冲出东部之后有主场优势。

[–][PHI] Chris Webber Ih8reposts[S] 38 指標 16 小時前

As a 6ers fan, they have to be front runners to make the finals at least. Wouldn’t be surprised if the 6ers give them trouble in the playoffs if they get matched up at any point, but man it’s hard to bet against Giannis. I think the 6ers give them a decent struggle in the East, and then if they play the Lakers in the finals I could see it going either way, although I’d probably lean LA in that matchup.

But who knows, anything can happen between now and then.

76人球迷:在我这个76人球迷看来,雄鹿再怎么说也得是进入总决赛的头号热门。要是76人能在季后赛碰到雄鹿并给他们制造麻烦,那我也不会奇怪,不过对付字母哥太难了。我觉得76人会在东部让雄鹿头疼,要是雄鹿进了总决赛碰上湖人,那我觉得谁赢都不一定,不过我也许更看好湖人。

可是谁说得清呢,啥事儿都可能发生。

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[–]TheBurner4567 1017 指標 16小時前

Lol fucking Mj and the Bulls did it twice

哈哈哈哈,特么乔丹和公牛做到了两次啊

[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 545 指標 16 小時前

I mean there’s a reason he’s the best ever.

雄鹿球迷:不然怎么说他是史上最强

[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 329 指標 14 小時前

Reason the 98 Bulls didn’t get close again was because Pippen missed the first 3 months.

Jordan still guided them to a 24-11 record while he was out.

雄鹿球迷:97/98赛季那支公牛之所以没能接近这已称就,是因为皮蓬头三个月缺席了。

即便他不在的时候,乔丹还是率队拿到了24胜11负。

[–]QUEST50012 188 指標 13 小時前

They still had the best record that year even with Scottie missing 38 games

哪怕皮蓬那个赛季缺阵了38场,公牛还是拿到了联盟最佳战绩。

[–]Lakers IOwnYourData 78 指標 13 小時前

GOAT shit

湖人球迷:这特么就是史上最强啊

[–]Hawks TheCoolestMan2000 171 指標 13 小時前*

The Warriors were 52-5 at the All Star Break just insane.

老鹰球迷:勇士当年在全明星休赛期前的52胜5负实在是太牛了

[–]Bucks JGlow12 45 指標 9 小時前

They were at 52-5 but it was actually 5 games after the All-Star break. They were 48-4 at the break. Still insane though.

雄鹿球迷:他们的确是有52胜5负,不过那实际上是在全明星之后了。全明星之前是48胜4负。依然很了不起啊

[–]Pistons salmon10 346 指標 15 小時前*

Damn, 06 we were 36-8, so close

EDIT: 47 and 9, my bad

活塞球迷:靠,05/06赛季我们也拿到过36胜8负,差一点啊

编辑:应该是47胜9负,我的错

[–]Callme_MrClean 105 指標 13 小時前

The 09 lakers were 40-8

08/09赛季湖人一度取得过40胜8负

[–][LAL] Jodie Meeks ArchimedesNutss 63 指標 13 小時前

Sasha Vujacic baby

湖人球迷:萨沙-武贾西奇哦亲

【键盘侠】雄鹿一成就比肩勇士|争冠最强对手或是洛城双雄

[–]David _H21 45 指標 12 小時前

Spurs went 39-7 the year after the Warriors did it. I’m still confident in saying that team had a 50/50 chance to beat the Warriors if Kawhi didnt get hurt.

勇士实现这一成就之后第二个赛季,马刺一度取得过39胜7负。我还是可以自信地说,要是那年小卡没伤,那支马刺战胜勇士的概率有50%。

[–]Qing_James 12 指標 11 小時前

Iono in the regular season Spurs also lost a 23 pt lead when Kawhi was healthy. It’s like the Warriors have a button they can press to start trying

这就不好说了,当时常规赛的时候马刺被勇士23分逆转,当时小卡也健康啊。感觉勇士就像有个按键一样,一按就能好好打。

[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki chanaandeler_bong 43 指標 14 小時前

Wonder where the Mavs were in 2007. We won 67 games that year. I think we lost like 5 straight to start the year tho.

独行侠球迷:想知道独行侠06/07赛季的时候那会儿战绩是咋样的。那个赛季最终我们拿到了67个胜场。不过我记得那赛季开局我们就是五连败

[–]Mavericks BayonettaBasher 42 指標 12 小時前

We were 40-9 when we hit 40 wins. Started 0-4, then we were 14-7 after 21 games, and after that, we had a nice little 38-2 spurt to get to 52-9

独行侠球迷:我们那赛季拿到40胜时,战绩是40胜9负。开局四连败,21场打完之后是14胜7负。在这之后,我们拿下了一波漂亮的38胜2负,战绩是52胜9负。

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[–][MIL] Ray Allen MilwaukeeMan420 95 指標 15 小時前

Thanks for jinxing us

雄鹿球迷:感谢毒奶

[–]Warriors BillyBean11111 39 指標 14 小時前

I cant imagine anyone beating this team in a 7 game series in the East, just isn’t going to happen.

勇士球迷:我觉得东部没有球队能7场解决雄鹿,不存在的。

[–]nbamodssuckdick 26 指標 13 小時前

The Bucks will not lose another game.

雄鹿再也不会输了!

[–]NBA Murmur322 29 指標 12 小時前

Ever. They’ll win every regular season and playoff game they participate in until the end of time. Interest in the NBA will falter, teams will go under.

肯定不会!他们以后每个常规赛季都是王者,季后赛都能拿到,就这样一直到时间的尽头。大家对NBA的兴趣也会减弱,其他球队都会沉沦。

[–]76ers Dave___Smith 20 指標 13 小時前

We drafted Michael Carter Williams over Giannis

76人球迷:当初咱们居然选了迈卡威,没要字母哥

[–]Bucks Nelly_24 19 指標 10 小時前

It’s ok buddy we drafted Jabari over Embiid

雄鹿球迷:没事的老弟,我们还不是选了贾巴里-帕克,没要恩比德

[–]Timberwolves DannyPinn 11 指標 7 小時前

We drafted 2 point guards before steph curry.

森林狼球迷:那我们当年还选了两个控卫,没选库里呢

[–]Raptors LemmingPractice 190 指標 14 小時前

The strangest thing about it is how few people actually give the Bucks the credit of being the championship favourites that their record says they should be considered. So many pundits still refer to the Lakers as being the best team in the league, and a lot of people doubt the Bucks’ ability to translate their regular season success into playoff success, after last year’s collapse.

If there is anything the Bucks could have done to solidify their status as favourites this season, they have done it. They deserve to be considered the best team, until someone unseats them. If the Raptors still had Kawhi, it would be different, but they don’t. Right now, the Bucks have earned the crown as best team in the league.

猛龙球迷:最诡异的是,雄鹿战绩这么好,可实际上觉得他们是冠军热门的人还是少之又少。很多专家依然把湖人看作是联盟最强球队,而且,上赛季季后赛嗝屁之后,还有很多人对雄鹿把常规赛战绩转化成季后赛成就的能力感到怀疑。

雄鹿这赛季所做的一切,足以巩固他们夺冠热门的地位了。在其他对手把他们拉下马之前,理应把他们视作是联盟最强。如果小卡还在猛龙,那情况是不一样的,可是小卡不在啊。就眼下来说,雄鹿已经用实力赢得了联盟最强队的称号。

[–]Dead Zombie9 123 指標 14 小時前*

I believe the Lakers being ahead according to pundits just because they have 2 MVP-caliber players while the Bucks have one.

All the so-called "analysts" or "pundits" are too dumb to analyze basketball so they just count the star players. Laker 2-1 Bucks. Analysis complete.

我觉得吧,很多专家更看好湖人是因为,他们有两个MVP级别的球员,而雄鹿只有一个。

那些所谓的“分析师”和“专家”都很蠢,瞎分析,他们就数那些明星球员。湖人两个,雄鹿一个。这就分析好了。

[–]Bucks kharathos 48 指標 13 小時前

In my opinion the Bucks’ main advantage is the experience the current roster have playing together.

雄鹿球迷:我觉得雄鹿的主要优势在于目前这套阵容在一起打球的经验

[–]Bucks FuckLukaDoncic 38 指標 13 小時前

Coaching too.

雄鹿球迷:还有教练

[–]Lakers mr-fiend 17 指標 13 小時前

The Clippers are actually above the Bucks as well, in terms of championship odds. Could be “big market bias” or maybe because they both have two superstars in a superstar driven league.

湖人球迷:说到夺冠概率,其实快船也在雄鹿之上。或许是“大球市偏爱”,或者是因为在这个超巨带动的联盟里,他们也有两个超巨。

[–]gradocans 36 指標 12 小時前

In fairness, Lakers have LeBron who is a top all time player and has 3 championships. Clippers have Kawhi who has 2x final mvp. As good as the bucks have been, there’s also the collapse last year.

As a bulls fan, Kinda could be like the bulls in 2011, had the best record in the league and the MVP but steamrolled by LeBron.

老实说,湖人有老詹这个拿过三个冠军的历史顶级球员。快船有拿过两次总决赛MVP的小卡。雄鹿虽说很有实力,可他们毕竟是上赛季掉过链子的。

作为公牛球迷,我觉得雄鹿可能会有点像是11年的公牛,联盟最强战绩,还有MVP,不够还是被老詹打趴了。

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